Created by GumGumFacePunch Dec 10, 2016
Last Updated Dec 18, 2016 (Pre-Patch 2)
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Is any chance that Johnny gets nothing?
Is this bug or just intended?
This is a bug :-( .
Sad little Johnny is full of bugs :D
I change thaler to aeromancy, it worked better for me. I don't have Myrthawhatsherface so no experience with that. I'm saving all the scraps for a ST deck.
It seems i have stumbled a bug. Try using Johnny with Aeromancy. Sometimes i get a gold card(Baron). It shouldn't work that way. Most of the times i use Ciri, get the card Advantage and changing with Johnny in the next round.
I might take a look at that bug.
I switched back to aeromancy as well, because Scoia´tel has gone back to playing in one row only (mainly ranged-row)...
might change it to a bronze-fog actually since ialmost exclusively use fog currently (both for nr & ST ) will see ;-)
It's not always, but it happened to me with Johnny > Aeromancy. I hate when you use Johnny -> Ciri and it gives you Ciri again. It happened to me twice!! Is it a bug? Is it a feature?
Lately i'm having some issues against ST deck with this deck (with Aeromancy). I post a comment in gwentlement.
I saw that,- Thanks for your comments!!:-)
Johnny should not do it as often anymore, since he can not spawn the same unit anymoe, but if your opponent plays ciri as well,you can get ciri too again.
For the Aeromancy thing: Did you notice if the unit you got was demoted from your opponent before? In that case it counts in the silver-category for Johnny, but you would still get it as a gold-card. <-- Johny has some really weird interactions :D
In the current patch you will have problems against ST with any deck, but this one might still stand the best shot. That said, you seem to face a bit of different ST-decks, with Isengrim (he has been cut in pretty much all decks i face...) and Saskia in it. If you face those kind of decks, including AOE-removal might be a good way to tech (lazerate,sabrina etc...) .
Luckily we get a new patch & cards very soon (and ranked...).
I have lots of ideas.
I just got ocvist and i tried this deck. Holy crap It's awesome. I was like 3 cards of advantage against SK in the last round. And he use Birna and Donar for CA. This deck seems like a antiSK. And with Burkh and Radovid you clean all the cards you need to win the last round.
i want to ask how exactly do you use Johny in this deck. To replace Ciri for another gold after she returns to your hand? Is it really worth it?
What about Aeromancy? I got it yesterday from a keg. It seems more valuable to me than Johny or Thaler.
He is there not only for Ciri in this deck.
He can also replace ocvist or thaler in some occassions (-same goes if you would runaeromancy or scorch. You can also replace borkh in some scenarios, since he is "only" a 11 tr unit in mirror matches often and getting a 2nd baron or shani would seal the deal for you in that case.
For Aeromancy: You can easily but this in your deck, it is a great card and is definetely under consideration for me, though i might be likely to just take frost instead. But in my games weather-cardswas hard to get value from, since i mostly play against mirror-matches or Scoia´tel, where it often is a dead card. Same goes for monsters.
So, there is only skellige back in which it gets huge value every time, but we win that matchup anyway. That is why i dont include aeromancy.
Thank you for the information. I understand your points.
Regarding aeromancy, yes its not very useful against standard removal scoiatel but i can see at least several decks where its very good. Dwarves, Skellige, Monster buff deck scoiatel using havekar healer buffing.
Whats your opinion on running redenian elites + reinforcement vs trebuchets?
I saw one ,,bug,, somewhere. If you promote a unit and the unit goes back to your hand. It counts as gold even that its demoved when you use Johny. In that specific time i saw it it was ocvist. I suppose it could work also with ressing redenian elite next round and decoying. Have you tried this?
As said Aeromancy is definetely not bad, you can include it if you want... for me it would probably be the 7th silver spot currently, but i might change my mind ;-) .
It is not really vs Trebuchets only, since you also give up another silver-spot.
I dont like it too much tbh,- for me it feels like a weaker version of this deck and more one-dimensional.
Was that bug also in the current patch? I know something like that worked in the past patch, but havent had that scenario since...
OK, thank you for the tips.
I also see that you added Myrthabrakke. The removal with varried power 3+2+1 must work great to line up borkh scorches right?
Also, why are you running Alzurs Thunder? Any specific matchups?
I will buy Johny and Ciri today and try your version. Instead of the Myrthabrakke which i am missing i will most likely try aeromancy. We will see how it goes.
Ciri can be replaced if you dont want her btw,- she is atm not that great against so many radovid.
Alzurs Thunder is added for Ocvist and War Longships mostly, since everyone runs ocvist and the war longships are so strong i feel 1x is a must. Myrthablabla is added for scorch as you mentioned (also against opponent borkh´s do manipulate with the numbers...) and again to kill opponents Ocvist and other low-strength high-value targets.
This deck has currently a lot of good matchups, especially SKellige and Scoia´tel,- even though the latter matchup is still hard it is better than for any other deck.